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Post by Cal on Aug 26, 2008 15:36:40 GMT -5
See: How to Make Tybalt's Life Suck Even More.
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Post by Erik on Aug 26, 2008 15:39:54 GMT -5
Well, I don't think the Fresh Start Club would support Wilkins, because he enforces the stereotype of the evil undead. So there goes a substantial voting block right there. To be fair, we haven't seen his platform yet, and his player isn't here right now, and we just don't *know* how it would play out. I don't really care about the "governing" of the 'verse, because it won't have any impact on peoples' individual plot. But I'm looking forward to a political battle, an alignment of people, the potential revitalization of the Opera. If we're going to argue that verse-characters who originated as foreigners can't vote, then I guess they need to start procuring work visas, too. I just don't think that's something I'd worry about. I assume they're all citizens, unless someone wants to make a point of being an outsider. Among the logical fallacies we entertain, that seems easily surmounted.
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Post by Meg Giry on Aug 26, 2008 15:40:54 GMT -5
"I proclaim that we shall not celebrate my coronation with annual jubilees, but rather with POKE TYBALT DAY."
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Post by Der Tod on Aug 26, 2008 15:42:37 GMT -5
I'd rather not get too into politics with this. Politics as a whole are something I have a major aversion to, and I really don't want to bring that onto the 'verse.
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Post by Cal on Aug 26, 2008 15:44:05 GMT -5
Yeahh... but a democracy seems as if it needs some sort of recognition and involvement, whereas a monarchy is something that provides certain characters with something to do and no real governing.
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Post by Meg Giry on Aug 26, 2008 15:44:23 GMT -5
And technically, a democratic government WOULD put someone in charge of the Verse IRL as well, while the monarchy could basically be a background element. Plus, this is a fantasy, and there is no fantasy or romance about a democracy. I stand by my insistence on a constitutional monarchy. And when I bring up the concept of so many of our characters being foreigners, I mean that most of them CONSIDER themselves "just visiting". The ones who think of themselves as expatriates who've settled in France are a different matter. The difference between (in my case, for example) Herbert and Magda is that Herbert thinks of himself as a Romanian of German ancestry who happens to be in France at the moment, while Magda feels settled here and like this is home.
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Post by Carlos Castro on Aug 26, 2008 15:49:55 GMT -5
No one's saying everyone would have to be involved. I'd say the vast majority of Americans are still unaware that anything important is currently happening, and that's how it's always been. You can live very well without knowing we have a government except at tax time. Should the people planning an election not be allowed to go ahead with those plans?
There's also no reason we can't have both.
And I beg to differ that there are no fantasies about democracies. There are plenty about establishing them, and there are lots of political dramas. Just like there are lots of films about true love I don't want to see. It's a matter of taste, just like how no one's forced to attend a ball on the 'verse if they're not interested. I don't see the difference.
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Post by Meg Giry on Aug 26, 2008 15:59:47 GMT -5
That's why I'm supporting the constitutional monarchy. Lets us have all the election drama PLUS the sparklies and crowns and oohpretty.
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Post by Richard Wilkins on Aug 26, 2008 16:15:08 GMT -5
Well, I don't think the Fresh Start Club would support Wilkins, because he enforces the stereotype of the evil undead. So there goes a substantial voting block right there. ((Yeah... best not to assume till we've talked in character. Also.. to put my two cents in.... Why are we determining the government for our characters in an out of character section? Seems to me that if we were voting on a moderator or whatever this would be the place to do it. Determining the in character government should be done... *gasp* in character.))
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Drakulya
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Post by Drakulya on Aug 26, 2008 16:21:22 GMT -5
I agree. An IC "goverment" affects The Verse really....not at all. Not one bit. Unless you choose for it to affect your characters.
And we certainly don't want whoever "wins" to suddenly assume that they have some kind of power over things on the site just because a few people agreed on something OOC.
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Post by Der Tod on Aug 26, 2008 16:26:17 GMT -5
Um, nobody's going to assume they have mod powers.
Marie is the queen of France. She's my character...and really? I've done next to nothing with her. I never once assumed I was in charge of anything.
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Post by Drakulya on Aug 26, 2008 16:30:03 GMT -5
This was directed more at whoever is Meg and just mentioned that "technically, a democratic government WOULD put someone in charge of the Verse IRL as well"
... No.
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Post by Der Tod on Aug 26, 2008 16:32:27 GMT -5
OH
I think she meant that if the 'verse was real, in real life it would.
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Post by Micaela on Aug 26, 2008 16:42:23 GMT -5
Either way, are the rebels winning?
I think that question deserves answering before we actually choose a government or whatever it is we're doing.
We could always go back to having a nondescript unspecified government, though that would leave some fuzziness with when Leia and Enj and whoever decide what the hell to do.
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Post by Oscar François de Jarjayes on Aug 26, 2008 16:51:01 GMT -5
Unfortunately, whether the rebels win or not probably can't be decided in character, because we don't have the infrastructure to, I don't know, determine how many NPCs get killed or whatever. Richard could throw every army in France at them, but how do we decide who wins? So that's probably something that can be decided, at least on a basic level.
In the aftermath, what I'd like to see is a power vacuum leading to a struggle that whoever wants to can participate in, the outcome of which can be determined IC.
Whatever the outcome, most play would be unaffected, just like it always is. That's my assumption, anyway.
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